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Post by Graham Bell on Sept 11, 2015 7:18:45 GMT
Great meeting yesterday at Friends Meeting House (George Fox was looking after us kindly). There is a groundswell of vibrant ideas as to useful research we can do. The target is the next two years to be able to present progress @ IPC India 2017. Do connect with www.permaculture.org.uk/research and add your contributions.
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Post by Naomi on Sept 11, 2015 22:36:04 GMT
I'm looking forward to the harvesting of ideas from the PIRN (Permaculture International Research Network) meeting on Thursday. Chris Warburton-Brown will share with us all in October. More about the Network in the link shared by Graham. Some of the discussions were continued today too. Research was chosen as a theme of interest by several people. We were asked to review where we are now, challenges, and opportunities, and to suggest what we would like to achieve over the convergence and what we would like support with. Several key ideas that came out of these early discussions are: * Making research accessible for practitioners to understand. We recognise that the Permaculture Digest 'translates' recent academic articles into normal English. permaculture-research.blogspot.co.uk/ * Finding research papers: scholar.google.co.uk/ works just like google but searches published papers and books. It often links to an online .pdf. If you have to pay for it, first send a polite email to the 'corresponding author' (usually noted on the first page) expressing your interest. Most often they will be happy to send you a copy. * How is research something that we can all be involved with? It shouldn't be something that academics "do" to others, but a beneficial, leaning experience on all sides. It should be beneficial to all those who take part in it. * Can we evidence existing permaculture practice? We recognise that there is a lot of evidence and information already existing but held within discreet topic areas. As an example of how this could be done - to examine the content of the PDC by recruiting experts in each of the areas to look at the existing academic evidence in their subject areas that might underpin (or contradict) this. What are your ideas? Do you agree with this? Feel free to share your thoughts and comments. : ) Naomi
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Post by bob on Sept 12, 2015 20:09:44 GMT
One of the things I have noticed about university research is that it does not always take place in the environment where many factors can influence the outcome. Utilizing the resources of students at the universities and the land and environment of a permaculture design site the reporting can be done as part of the students academic requirements and the land steward would not have to spend their time on the reports. I would suggest that the site steward would layout thoroughly the the research parameters so that it reflects more of the many activities that go on in the environment. Additionally including farmers and farm land with permaculture design and universities more opportunities and forward progress could be realized. All those involved can learn from each other too.
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Post by Naomi on Sept 13, 2015 9:23:25 GMT
Hi Bob, that is so true! For example, I would like to investigate polycultures but traditional (academic) approaches just can't cope with the range of variables that would come from investigating polycultures in 10 different people's gardens/farms and instead needs to have 10 plots where any other thing that could affect the results (like soil, temperature, moisture, light, how often they are harvested etc.) are kept exactly the same. My feeling is that then the 'controlled' results don't well represent the real-world. We desperately need some tools that are more flexible! This is a big challenge.
For your other point, are you saying that you think having more student projects working with practitioners is a good way forward? Perhaps a system where practitioners say how they are using land and what they would like investigated, that links to universities/students who are interested in studying that? With the results shared back online? That would be really cool! Student dissertation projects are guided by an experienced academic, so would draw on that expertise in research design too and help build those connections. I'll feed that back into the discussions here at the IPC this afternoon.
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Post by Naomi on Sept 13, 2015 10:30:10 GMT
Updates from Saturday at the IPC around research!
We had a much bigger group today and lots of academics involved. We found there had already been a big research meeting (PIRN) at the conference, requesting people put out proposals and we could feed into that piece of work thats already being done.
We had intense discussions about principles and research and particularly about research coming from the top. We have some questions about methods and measurable outcomes, by practitioners and also by those using permaculture and see some qualitative data. We want to develop data collection, templates and forms so that data comes in the same style so it doesn't need to be manipulated.
Hope to submit some peer reviewed papers and get into journals or create own journal.
We want to analyse PDC content and validate it, based on research, we need evidence for this and what is being taught. Going through the Permaculture Design Course, PDC, manual – some people have already done that and we're looking for this info and using existing science and work. Develop a skeleton of topics and look at the PIRN to add to that work.
The manual was written in the 1980s, there are some major mistakes in this – science has changed and there are some massive areas that need updating and changing. This needs to be gone through and need to be qualified or validated with new science, this needs to be done to help teaching and learning. Can we link with the Education group?
Research to link up with demonstration sites? Let that demo site do this research?
The climate change group need some research and rather than set up their own research work, they'd like to network with research group
On thursday after conference, there was some research networking and it was a start for putting out calls for research and researchers taking the topics on – research match-making.
The education group were interested in outcomes for people and socio-economic issues – reaching into majority world issues and invisible structure research
The research group talked about the importance of including both aspects of research but they didn't get into topic of the permaculture validation work – assessing our work and its impact.
There should definitely be links between these groups – there is a lot of debate and some systematic tracking would be good for this process.
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What do you think? Are you a practitioner who wants to learn more about research? Or a researcher who want's to link with the real-world?
Are you interested in evaluating the techniques that are taught in the PDC?
Can we use a network of Demonstration sites to enhance research?
What is the evidence for good practice around permaculture and climate change?
Feel free to answer all or any of these questions and to add you own thoughts on this topic in reply.
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Post by bob on Sept 14, 2015 11:26:01 GMT
There are 3 groups I am to varying degrees connected with that are doing research and documenting the science. One is Savanna Institute in Champaign, Illinois. This group was started by Kevin Woltz 3 years ago who is doing his PHD with the University of Illinois. His research is based on Mark Shepards book Restoration Agriculture. He started out with 5 acres on campus as a demonstration site and has 25 or more sites in 3 states documenting results.
Another one is PFI Practical Farmers of Iowa. The founder did a 3 year research project on corn and soy comparing input costs and profit using unsustainable practices versus some sustainable practices, the results were unsustainable practices averaged $600 plus/acre loss versus $160 plus/acre profit. There are over 300 members who are members and following suite. Farmers helping farmers. Joel Salatin has lectured with them.
I am most active with BFI Bionutrient Food Association founded by Dan Kitridge of Massachusetts. There are over 100 practicing farmers documenting real science points growing nutrient dense food at optimum production levels i.e. 1,200 pounds of tomatoes from a single plant.
I am just getting started with consulting with corn and soy farmers to start their transition to sustainable practices. Without changing their mono crops getting them to key-line plow, cover crop, add locally sources amendments (rock dust from quarries)based on soil tests that specialize in complete soil analysis as outlined in the BFI program. This first part of the transition is to increase profits and get them to see success at least in of of their fields. Once they SEE the results they will want to incorporate it into additional fields and from there we can continue the transition process to regenerative farming.
Part of the plan is to work with universities in Michigan (to start) who will partner with farmers and land owners to grow Industrial Hemp. Early this year S.A.R.E. approved all universities in the USA to grow Industrial Hemp for research purposes. Industrial Hemp is known to remediate soil and can be part of the transition process. One part of the plant is used in hempcrete which can also benefit farmers by having a use for it on site to insulate their pole barns.
I am a Permaculture Designer trained and certified by Koreen Brennan. Certified by Mark Sheppard on Restoration Agriculture. Certified Member of the Bio Nutrient Food Association and soon to be certified in Hempcrete sourcing, making and installing. I am the CEO of ALARM America Land Acquisition and Restoration Management, CEO of Legacy Design ("Sustainable Civilization Designers") and CEO of ECO Earthworks Construction Organization.
I am in the process of closing on a 34 acre property in Onaway, Michigan as headquarters for my 3 companies and a research/demonstration/education site. My first target is to find those farmers in the northern 22 counties of Michigan who are open to transition and start the education and consulting process.
I am a researcher who links with the real world. I am not interested in evaluating the techniques taught in the PDC. I believe they are a good start for anyone new and have personally been enlighted by what Koreen has taught.
It appears there are more Groups that have networks and research going on in various practices and locations. Those designated as demonstration sites or plan to be could be used to enhance research.
Results in terms of statistics that measure defined valuable final products are the evidence of good practices around Permaculture. I would not suggest climate change be a part of this as it would be a long term statistical analysis that is from my point of view a sub-product and a side benefit. I do understand that it is extremely important and the data can be accessed in the future through the weather reporting agencies that currently do this.
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Post by Mark Mc from Illinois on Sept 15, 2015 0:44:31 GMT
The hardest part that most people do not seem to understand is that for permaculture to be seen as a viable alternative to modern production systems, there needs to e a direct comparison of systems. The system has to be shown as a comprehensive sustainable production method that outshines the traditional industrial method in numerous ways. A number of researchers could investigate different factors, but the focus needs to be the difference in the two methods. I have seen too many researchers try to look at only one factor (cover crops, irrigation methods, tillage choice) but these type of studies are looking at putting a bandaid on the systems instead of showing that a total reboot of the system used. Bandaids will not fix what is needed. Permaculture is the answer. The quest is showing it.
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Post by Naomi on Sept 15, 2015 20:38:34 GMT
Monday and Tuesday at the IPC
The group came together on Monday around the idea of creating a peer-reviewed International Permaculture Journal and committed to take this forward. The journal would be multi-disciplinary and endeavour to use language that is understandable by all. It will * Engage practitioners, academics, and more widely. * Not just in English
In addition, it was recognised a need to engage with the education group
People stepped forward to become the editorial/peer-review board of the new journal and committed to publishing several issues before IPC India.
First issue will be published in June 2016 on permaculture research methods.
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